I think the best part is how uncomfortable Barbara Walters is! At one point early on, she asks, “Obesity is the number one problem for kids today. Everything you have here is enormously fattening. You tell kids to have cheesecake for breakfast… Doesn’t it bother you that you’re adding to it?”

Deen plays the “teach moderation” card and of course. “You don’t eat like this every day,” she says. True, but it still kind of sounds like a cop-out to me. I feel like a lot of people use the phrase “in moderation” when they can’t think of anything else to say.

Then again, it’s Paula Deen we’re talking with here, not Gwyneth Paltrow. You want a healthy kids’ cookbook, she’s probably the person to write it.

Here’s the segment.